Comments on: The “Loudener” https://chrishernandezauthor.com/2013/08/15/the-loudener/ Author of Proof of Our Resolve Thu, 12 Jun 2014 00:50:17 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: chrishernandezauthor https://chrishernandezauthor.com/2013/08/15/the-loudener/comment-page-1/#comment-69926 Thu, 12 Jun 2014 00:50:17 +0000 http://chrishernandezauthor.com/?p=866#comment-69926 In reply to Josiah.

Josiah,

I can believe that. There’s no question the presence of a rifle changes things. I’ve seen it myself, when a suspect was facing two officers’ pistols and yelling “I don’t care, shoot me!” but immediately complied when he saw me with a carbine. I can see some possible value in the Londoner in combat, but only if it had a quick-detach mechanism. I can’t see the added value being so great that it’s worth carrying an extra rifle or upper.

Thanks for the link, and thanks for commenting.

]]> By: Josiah https://chrishernandezauthor.com/2013/08/15/the-loudener/comment-page-1/#comment-64057 Mon, 02 Jun 2014 14:14:30 +0000 http://chrishernandezauthor.com/?p=866#comment-64057 I found this record of a pursuit/firefight where the noise level of a police officers rifle may have played a part in causing the criminals to change plans. http://www.rcdsa.org/norcorobbery/robbery.html The quote I’m referencing is “‘When the suspects hear the rifle, they realize their firepower is now being matched.” The four gunmen decided not to shoot it out at this time.” This occurs towards the end of the shootout being reported here and while maybe the criminals were ready to disengage already at that moment perhaps hearing that they were being engaged by something other than pistols and shotguns changed their minds. Now this was not a wartime combat situation and I agree with you that this device has no value there. It probably has no value for police work either because so many officers have access to rifles now. In this occasion only one officer brought a rifle and that is the lesson to be learned here, not the loudness of the rifle. I just thought you might find this enteresting.

]]> By: chrishernandezauthor https://chrishernandezauthor.com/2013/08/15/the-loudener/comment-page-1/#comment-6919 Thu, 22 Aug 2013 01:02:38 +0000 http://chrishernandezauthor.com/?p=866#comment-6919 In reply to Lothaen.

Lo,

You forgot to add “unintended pregnancies”. 🙂

]]> By: chrishernandezauthor https://chrishernandezauthor.com/2013/08/15/the-loudener/comment-page-1/#comment-6918 Thu, 22 Aug 2013 01:02:06 +0000 http://chrishernandezauthor.com/?p=866#comment-6918 In reply to Dave L..

Dave,

Agreed, IF it actually reduces felt recoil it could be useful in peacetime shooting matches. In combat, I’m not sold.

I’d still like to shoot one though, just to say I did.

]]> By: Dave L. https://chrishernandezauthor.com/2013/08/15/the-loudener/comment-page-1/#comment-6912 Wed, 21 Aug 2013 17:41:10 +0000 http://chrishernandezauthor.com/?p=866#comment-6912 If it actually works as a compensator – meaning it reduces the amount of felt recoil and muzzle jump when you fire – it might be useful. I shoot in 3-gun competitions, where being able to place rapid, accurate shots (at targets that don’t shoot back) is the key to winning (except on shotgun stages – then it’s being able to reload fast), and everyone has a muzzle comp of some sort on their rifle. And all of them make the rifle a good bit louder.

(Word of advice – stand well behind the guy with the compensated AR-10.)

But in combat, I would much rather have less muzzle blast, although to me it would be more about kicking up less of a dust cloud moreso than how loud it was.

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