Comments on: A Few Thoughts on the Waco Biker Shootout https://chrishernandezauthor.com/2015/05/21/a-few-thoughts-on-the-waco-biker-shootout/ Author of Proof of Our Resolve Thu, 25 May 2017 00:24:14 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: Mike Smith https://chrishernandezauthor.com/2015/05/21/a-few-thoughts-on-the-waco-biker-shootout/comment-page-1/#comment-265419 Thu, 25 May 2017 00:24:14 +0000 http://chrishernandezauthor.com/?p=1823#comment-265419 It has been two years and not one defendant agreed to plead guilty and/or testify for the government. That is incredible!

The simplest accusation is the best. The Law Enforcement Organizations (LEO’s) had a Duty to Warn.

They gave press releases that stated that they had real time information that the attacks would be made two weeks in advance and they did not attempt to prevent the conflict.

What they did do was conceal themselves and put a covert camera on a pole at the very epicenter of the conflict. They had snipers to protect undercover agents and high value assets. They had the DA and the Justice of the Peace embedded in their strike force.

What they didn’t do. They did not go to the State ABC Board and exercise their broad administrative discretion to get the ABC Board to exercise its broad Statutory discretion to close the Twin Peaks as a matter of public safety.

They did not warn the members of the Bandidos that a large contingent of Cossacks would be/were waiting to ambush them: that contingent included several undercover agents and high value assets.

They did no deploy uniformed police cruisers to the parking lot to turn the Bandidos away from the meeting or to, by their very presence, quell any violence.

They did not contact the CoC&I and notify its executive board to cancel the meeting.

At the very minimum, they sat back, watched and waited for the violence to erupt. At the worst, they fomented a riot to facilitate a mass arrest.

It has also been two years and nothing has been done. No DOJ independent investigation into the murder of nine men in less than a minute.

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By: Mike Smith https://chrishernandezauthor.com/2015/05/21/a-few-thoughts-on-the-waco-biker-shootout/comment-page-1/#comment-205647 Sun, 12 Jul 2015 05:57:48 +0000 http://chrishernandezauthor.com/?p=1823#comment-205647 I liked this article when it came out and I was just rereading it tonight.

In my humble opinion, no one went to Twin Peaks looking to kill another person. That includes the LEO’s.

That said, the last six weeks have revealed some new facts that would warrant the author revisiting this article.

Not changing his core opinions, but reexamining the suppositions that he was scrupulous enough to qualify as such.

I believe that the LEO’s; inclusive of the ATF, the DPS and Waco PD; did have active undercover agents and run of the mill rats inside the Cossacks and the Scimitars.

The Cossacks were being recruited by the Hells Angels. The LEO’s were already inside the Cossacks, etc., and they would have been absorbed into the Hells Angels if the patchover had gone accordingly. At least that was their hope.

To that end the LEO’s needed nothing short of a riot to break out in a confined space so that they could make the mass arrests. The parking lot at Twin Peaks is a box canyon.

And there it went horribly wrong and created a living hell for everyone.

That is why there are none of the videos the author spoke of. The LEO’s seized every video and every device that could take so much as a selfie. Numerous bystanders are suing to have their phones returned.

There is a short story, a work of fiction, on Amazon.com that tells a tale of how this might have come to be. The Title is: “The Waco Texas Biker Massacre.” It is free to read if you have a Prime or Kindle account.

Even if the author declines to read this short story, I would love to hear his comments on the tragedy in light of the current set of facts.

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By: Jay K. Cottle https://chrishernandezauthor.com/2015/05/21/a-few-thoughts-on-the-waco-biker-shootout/comment-page-1/#comment-193956 Sun, 14 Jun 2015 21:01:47 +0000 http://chrishernandezauthor.com/?p=1823#comment-193956 I’m glad this was written. One point.

The cops claimed they only shot after receiving return fire. Your hypothesis that they fired on the bikers to prevent civilian death is contradicted by their own admissions, BUT…their own admissions have been contradicted and retracted by other exposures and press releases. This “return fire” may only have been a gunshot going off in their general direction, or it might be pure fabrication to justify unloading on the scene as it sounds very neat and tidy – “police took fire, we acted to protect ourselves” vs “they may have hurt someone” (not a common refrain in police affidavits). Why it might not be pure fabrication is the lawsuit by Don Carlo’s against Twin Peaks for property damage to their store (DC was where cops posted up).

My thoughts have been – cops killed everyone there, bikers realized they had walked into a killing field and threw down their arms, and then the legal process went nuts. Zero probable cause to assume every person involved was there to commit murder versus stop someone from fighting, versus calm things down, versus intent to / commission of assaults only. Zero reason to set the bonds as high as they did without individual investigation into each biker’s situation. A public statement by a judge that bond was set to teach these out of towners a lesson.

Worst – The idea that by whipping out their guns to protect themselves from lethal force sounded the death knell is the terrifying one. Civilians may indeed have been injured / killed, but the police were shooting directly at the restaurant (and as I recall the patio for Twin Peaks downrange of the cops suffered some damage).

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By: Tierlieb https://chrishernandezauthor.com/2015/05/21/a-few-thoughts-on-the-waco-biker-shootout/comment-page-1/#comment-189143 Fri, 29 May 2015 08:11:42 +0000 http://chrishernandezauthor.com/?p=1823#comment-189143 In reply to chrishernandezauthor.

Historic footnote: NSKK – Nationalsozialistisches Kraftfahrerkorps. “Hitler’s bikers” (well, + cars). As with everything German, well organized, not oppressed, but definitely more 99% than 1%s.

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By: JD https://chrishernandezauthor.com/2015/05/21/a-few-thoughts-on-the-waco-biker-shootout/comment-page-1/#comment-189059 Fri, 29 May 2015 01:31:21 +0000 http://chrishernandezauthor.com/?p=1823#comment-189059 In reply to Keith.

Look up C.O.C of Waco Texas. they have a monthly calender of events.

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